IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 29 March 2022 Members (asterisk for those attending): Achronix Semiconductor: Hansel Dsilva Amazon: John Yan ANSYS: Curtis Clark * Wei-hsing Huang Cadence Design Systems: Ambrish Varma Jared James Google: Zhiping Yang Intel: * Michael Mirmak Kinger Cai Alaeddin Aydiner Keysight Technologies: * Fangyi Rao Majid Ahadi Dolatsara Ming Yan Radek Biernacki Rui Yang Luminous Computing David Banas Marvell Steve Parker Mathworks (SiSoft): * Walter Katz Mike LaBonte Micron Technology: * Randy Wolff Justin Butterfield Missouri S&T Chulsoon Hwang Siemens EDA (Mentor): * Arpad Muranyi Teraspeed Labs: * Bob Ross Zuken USA: * Lance Wang The meeting was led by Arpad Muranyi. Randy Wolff took the minutes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Opens: - None. ------------- Review of ARs: - AR: Arpad to send an updated draft 19 of BIRD213.1 to the ATM list. - Done. -------------------------- Call for patent disclosure: - None. ------------------------- Review of Meeting Minutes: Arpad asked for any comments or corrections to the minutes of the March 22 meeting. Randy moved to approve the minutes. Arpad seconded the motion. There were no objections. ------------- New Discussion: BIRD draft to clarify "root name" definition and usage: Michael showed draft 4 from March 8. He changed highlighting to make it easier to see exactly the changes from IBIS 7.1. There was a clarification from Mike LaBonte describing the root name. Arpad agreed with movement of one sentence as requested in the last review. There were no other comments. Michael moved to vote on submitting the BIRD to the Open Forum. Bob seconded the motion. There were no objections. BIRD213.1 draft 20, PAMn: Arpad showed the draft 20 document he started based on Randy’s suggestion at the end of the previous meeting to move the symbol_time and clock_times related text from pg. 278 to pg. 223 in the existing spec. Yellow highlights showed these changes. Arpad was not sure how to deal with the sentence ‘For PAM4, the edge threshold crossing time is only meaningful for transitions between symbols 0 and 3 and between symbols 1 and 2.’ in a general way that would also apply to PAMn. He was also wondering why this statement did not mention transitions between symbols 0 and 2 and between symbols 1 and 3. Fangyi proposed text for the clock_times description on page 229 related to PAM4. He thought we should only mention how clock_times is used and not mention edge crossing. His text was related to draft 19 on page 4 in yellow highlight. The text is to be moved to page 223. The new text is "The sample times equal clock_times + 1/2 UI + offset, where offset is defined by Reserved Parameters PAM_Offset and PAM4_UpperEyeOffset, PAM4_CenterEyeOffset and PAM4_LowerEyeOffset." Arpad showed other page 278 text changes rewritten from draft 19 to flow better. Fangyi suggested an addition of "for PAM4 signaling" to one sentence. Arpad noted that we are not providing an equivalent in PAMn for the PAM4 encoding parameter. The statement that the usage of the new PAMn parameters is highly recommended is an indication that we want to phase out the usage of the old PAM4 parameters, but people wanting to define encoding will end up having to use the old PAM4 parameters. Walter thought we could keep the PAM4_Mapping along with the new PAMn parameters when n=4. Randy noted that Modulation and Modulation_Levels cannot coexist. He was not sure if other PAM4 keywords could exist if Modulation is missing. In IBIS 7.1 on page 280, there is a statement about PAM4_Mapping stating that it is ignored if Modulation is not defined. Randy noted this needs to be changed if we want it to be used with Modulation_Levels and not ignored. New text was added to draft 20 to allow a default for PAM4_Mapping with Modulation_Levels not declared, and to declare PAM4_Mapping is ignored when Modulation_Levels is set to any value other than 4. - Walter: Motion to adjourn. - Randy: Second. - Arpad: Thank you all for joining. AR: Arpad to send an updated draft 20 of BIRD213.1 to the ATM list. ------------- Next meeting: 12 April 2022 12:00pm PT (no meeting during DesignCon week) ------------- IBIS Interconnect SPICE Wish List: 1) Simulator directives